How to easily copy music from your iPod to your Windows iTunes music library
One of the failings of iTunes is the inability to copy music files from the iPod to your iTunes library without third party utilities. I suspect Apple did this by design to keep we iTunes customers from copying our DRMed music. I recently rebuilt my Tablet PC and wanted to copy my 18 GB of music residing on my iPod over to the Tablet so my library would be filled again. A gotcha lurks when you install iTunes and your iPod onto a new computer because iTunes is set by default to replace your iPod library with the desktop library the first time they are partnered. Of course since your iTunes library is empty it promptly wipes out your precious music on the iPod leaving you with no library anywhere. Ouch. There is a simple way to prevent this and also copy your iPod library to the desktop without any third party software.
iTunes won’t let you configure the iPod to prevent the auto-syncing until AFTER the iPod is connected to iTunes. It is imperative you do not partner the two libraries when asked by iTunes, tell it no so the auto-sync doesn’t wipe your iPod clean leaving you a blubbering idiot in the process. Once the iPod is connected and set to operate as a hard disk on your PC exit iTunes. Go to the iTunes directory on the Windows machine (My Music/ iTunes by default) and delete the XML file and the ITL file which is the library database installed when you hooked up the iPod.
With those files deleted the iTunes library is now empty as it should be for this process. Navigate over to the iPod in My Computer and make sure you set the folder options to show hidden files. Find the hidden folder called iPod Control and even though it’s filled with many files with nonsensical names this is in fact the music library on the iPod. Copy that folder to anywhere on the PC which will take a while if you have a lot of songs. When this copy is complete open iTunes and in the Files menu tell iTunes to Add a Folder and select the iPod Control folder you just copied over. You could actually do this straight from the iPod without copying them all over but I was nervous something might happen to the library on the iPod so I copied them first.
Before you do the Add a Folder mentioned above make sure iTunes is set to manage your library and to copy files when adding to iTunes. This is important to get iTunes to organize the songs using the ID3 tags in the song files you just copied over. That’s it– you have all your iPod songs now properly copied to the desktop and nicely organized and in the iTunes database. Note that when you first connect the iPod to the computer after you set iTunes to auto-sync it will wipe the iPod clean and sync the new iTunes library back to the iPod. It seems like a silly step but since the two libraries are the same anyway it doesn’t hurt anything, it just takes time. It is necessary to make sure the databases are identical. Once it’s done you can delete the iPod Control folder you copied on the desktop since iTunes has copied the songs into it’s own directory tree.








JK: thanks for the great how to - just stuck that in my del.icio.us bookmarks. Don't need it now but will in future I am sure.
Posted by: Freddie Daniells | September 02, 2005 at 09:05 AM
Great info. Thanks much for that. Never had the time to figure it out before now.
Posted by: Warner Crocker | September 02, 2005 at 08:12 PM
Thanks for the article JK.
Just copied my Ipod music to my new TabletPC. Just one note, after coping the Ipod control directory to the pc you need to change the read only attribute for all the files and folders or iTunes will not find any files in the folders to import. I think this limitation will also stop you from being able to import directly from the IPOD.
Posted by: Dean Maughan | September 05, 2005 at 06:41 AM
I did not have todo that when I copied my music over. Read only should be good enough since you're not writing to the music directly.
Posted by: jk | September 05, 2005 at 08:31 AM
Whoops my bad :)
I should have said Hidden attribute not read only.
It is strange that you did not need to change anything, as I most certinately did.
Posted by: Dean Maughan | September 05, 2005 at 05:45 PM
Dean, from the article:
"Navigate over to the iPod in My Computer and make sure you set the folder options to show hidden files. "
Posted by: jk | September 05, 2005 at 05:55 PM
Followed the steps exactly as outlined and imported all the music from an iPod mini on to a new Windows laptop drive. The music is there on the laptop drive. But nothing happens when I then tell iTunes to Add a Folder and select the IPod Control folder I just copied over. It just won't add, despite taking care to do everything as above. Any help would be much appreciated.
Posted by: george | September 18, 2005 at 06:30 AM
Maybe the Mini has a different structure?
Posted by: jk | September 19, 2005 at 08:28 PM
JK - thanks so much for this info - I've been trying to work this out ever since swapping over in Feb.... Only thing is I'm still up to the hard disk configuring part and so far it's taken a few hours - is this right or is something wrong..?
Thanks again for a great site.
Posted by: Phoebe | October 05, 2005 at 08:41 AM
Words cannot express how excited I am I found your site with this info. My computer crashed and all of my music - CDs that were uploaded and about $200 worth of downloads - was lost. I was getting a migraine thinking of the time and money to get my music back because my ipod mini wouldn't copy its music to my library. I was able to do it successfully with your direction... thank you, thank you, thank you... I have a strong desire to send you a fruit basket. Have a fabulous day...
Posted by: Amaya | October 16, 2005 at 07:08 PM
Thanks so much for the easy to follow advice and procedure. It allowed me to sync my son's iPod mini, which had much more content than the Windows PC. Steps and process worked falwlessly.
Posted by: Bob Stein | November 07, 2005 at 07:31 PM
Hello,
I've done this before but how do you get the ratings, purchased music, playlist, etc... back?
Thanks
Daniel
Posted by: Nello | December 06, 2005 at 08:08 AM
for some reason, when in asked itunes to "add a folder" and tried to add the newly created music file off my ipod mini, it didn't add it and then wiped out my ipod since it was then set to sync. i do however have a copy of the newly created music file, but cannot get itunes to accept it. HELP!!!!!
Posted by: jcamp | January 07, 2006 at 03:40 PM
Thanks for sharing all the behind-the-scenes nightmare crap because I would've been spinning my wheels all day trying to figure this out!!
Posted by: Mike | February 06, 2006 at 01:04 AM
Thank you SOO much man. This made my life so much easier, and saved me HOURS.
Posted by: Chandler Hall | February 12, 2006 at 02:04 AM
i can't find iPod Control on my list of things. i am soo lost. and need help.. desperately
Posted by: brittney | February 27, 2006 at 01:13 AM
Guys...I love ya'll. My computer crashed, and my heart was broken. It worked though. You should have a podcast on itunes or someting. Thank you so much. Roll Tide
Posted by: Trent | April 28, 2006 at 11:18 PM
Fantabulous! what a great article!! it worked like a cham, just like that. way to go jk.
thanks
MP
Posted by: Mahipal | August 21, 2006 at 05:15 AM
Thanks a bunch and appreciate your thought of adding this info. My hard disk crashed and I didn't have any backup of my ipod which had over 25 gb of music and movies. This feature helped reduce the time taken to upload from my cd's and dvd's.
Thanks and appreciate your help. However, the movie files got renamed to some gabble de gook names. I had to rename those, not a big deal if I could retrieve 80% perfect data.
Thanks.
Posted by: Anil | September 02, 2006 at 11:20 PM
This was extreemly halpful. my computer crashed and i was worried that some thousand and more songs would forever be lossed to me if i ever tried to update my ipod in iTunes. But luckily i searched the web first, in find of a better solution. and i found and followed this.
I'm very grateful =]
though next time i'll back up my ipod.
Posted by: R. Miller | September 10, 2006 at 06:45 PM
i got all the songs to transfer however now i cant hear anything, its like the computer is on mute but its not
Posted by: cello Maya | September 15, 2006 at 02:52 PM
I got the volume to work, now when i transfer the songs i cant get the name to appear just the artist, i know you explain that in the article but im a little slow when it comes to computers, how do i get my itunes to "manage files when adding to itunes"?
Posted by: Cello Maya | September 15, 2006 at 03:04 PM
When I plug in my ipod, it only shows up as a drive in My Computer for about 5 seconds and then disappears so I can only see the ipod control files until the connection is gone. How do I get around this? Please help.
Posted by: jwh | September 24, 2006 at 12:50 PM
When I loaded my ipod with this method, some of my video files are showing up with wrong names (4 letter ones). How do I convert to the correct file names? Please help.
Posted by: Sharad | September 24, 2006 at 01:45 PM
Great info thanks - best I found on the whole web! Would be good if you amended the above to point out about changing the folder attributes.
I risked adding the folder directly from the ipod, rather than copying ipod control to the PC first - worked perfectly and much quicker :-)
Having done this with the video ipod, interesting to note the video files keep the system names, rather than the names of the films but easy enough to identify which film was wihch and rename.
I do think Apple should address this - they are into customer satisfaction (I think?) and this is one of the few things with the ipod that must upset quite a few people, if they lose their whole library.
Thanks again!
Posted by: Dave | October 05, 2006 at 04:40 PM
Wow! I can't thank you enough! Everything worked just as described. The library is there and the migraine is gone. Thanks.
Posted by: Anthony | October 12, 2006 at 03:30 PM
I did everything you said, but when I tried to add the folder on iTunes it didn't work. (Maybe this is because I have a mini.) In any case, I had to copy and paste each individual folder from music in iPod control to a different place and then add each of them seperately to iTunes. There were only 6 folders though, so it didn't take that long. Anyway, thanks so much! <3 kathy
Posted by: kathy | October 21, 2006 at 07:47 AM
best eay to see if u have all the songs on ur new pc is to export library from ur old one and import on the new one. if u dont have everything it will tell u some songs wasnt found...
Posted by: roma | November 08, 2006 at 03:26 AM
i try to open the folder ipod control but nothing happens , is this because my itunes will not let me set the ipod for disc use?
the box for disc use is checked but not able to be unchecked
Posted by: Ellie Wolffe | November 19, 2006 at 03:36 PM
For all of the people that do not have iTunes opening files when they select; File -> Add Folder -> iPod_Control
From My Computer; Create a copy of all folders in your iPod drive into a new folder called 'iPod' on your desktop. Now in iTunes open this folder 'iPod' everything should work from there on in.
Hope this helps half as much as this original article did. Thanks jk!
Posted by: Matthew | November 25, 2006 at 03:23 PM
many thanks for the tips. Took some time but got it done and happy for today.
Posted by: willieg | November 28, 2006 at 10:57 PM
You are a freakin' genius! Thanks so much to you and dean m.!!
Posted by: Jaded | December 16, 2006 at 01:01 AM
my god, thank you so much. this was so incredibly helpful and worked so well. thank you thank you thank you. i cant say it enough.
Posted by: Sally | December 25, 2006 at 11:53 AM
great original article, and the above posters advice about copying ipod_control folder to a new folder worked like a charm
Posted by: tooltips | December 25, 2006 at 01:04 PM
I need help! I have a new computer and it does have I tunes, i uploaded some songs to this computer but when i conected my I POD to this computer deleted all my library so just kept 2 new cd on my Ipod. I am lost. Now my question is simple I have to separate libraries one at Home and one at work. The one at work has a lot of songs i do not have at home but I can not find a way to just make them one. and really I just want to load up my music to the IPOD and delete it from my computer, how can i make this two libraries to one and keep them both in one IPOD
Posted by: JCS | January 14, 2007 at 01:16 AM
ok lets complicate my previos question. My son has his Ipod and he want to keep his songs but want to put some of mines in his IPOD please help me
Posted by: jcs | January 14, 2007 at 01:18 AM
I just got a new PC and want to get the music off my ipod nano to itunes.. but i dont know what you mean when you say to set my ipod as a hard disk. how do i do that?
Posted by: Rae | January 21, 2007 at 06:04 PM
I have tried again to do this, but it still will not work. Could this be anything to do with the fact that the folder I make from ipod control is fainter than the other folders?
Thanks
Ellie
Posted by: Ellie Wolffe | February 05, 2007 at 11:16 AM
I have tried again to do this, but it still will not work. Could this be anything to do with the fact that the folder I make from ipod control is fainter than the other folders?
Thanks
Ellie
Posted by: Ellie Wolffe | February 05, 2007 at 11:16 AM
well i started exactly how u stated and everything was going good until i got to the point where i have to look for the hidden folder ipod control, now i looked and searched and i still can't find it, so plz help me out here, i need some direction.
Thanks alot
Posted by: sami | February 21, 2007 at 11:55 PM
just done word for word what you told us to do but it has added most of my music in 4 letters. thats alomst 2000 songs that are just shown as 4 letters. can i change this in a way that dosen't mean i have to do it one by one.
Posted by: callum | May 15, 2007 at 07:13 AM
nothing happens when i tried to put the itunes control folder into the itunes. Can someone help?
Posted by: chris | June 12, 2007 at 02:21 PM
gotta give it to you you definitely are a lifesaver
Posted by: Neville Mutsvangwa | June 25, 2007 at 05:58 AM
The easiest way to "copy music from your iPod to your Windows iTunes music library" as you say is definitely CopyTrans http://www.copytrans.net/copytrans.php
This program is able to import all your iPod data (songs, images, videos, playlists, ratings, play count,...) and rebuild your iTunes library out of it.
Posted by: Mike | July 12, 2007 at 09:24 AM
all the songs ive taken off my ipod onto the pc are wrong filenames...there must be a a quicker way to rename them rather than manually
Posted by: dave82 | August 06, 2007 at 06:14 PM
For mike...when u add them into itunes they automatically decode themselves
Posted by: john | October 09, 2007 at 11:59 PM
hey i just wanted to know how do u get the ipod to show the hidden files??
Posted by: Manny | January 09, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Big thanks guys. Finally sussed this!
Posted by: JC | February 05, 2008 at 08:30 AM
HEy uhh i can't find da hidden folder what do i do...
Posted by: Saundra3 | February 21, 2008 at 09:17 PM
Thanks
Posted by: macdvdripper | March 04, 2008 at 08:08 PM
thank you for all the tips...
I have 1 more to add...
concerning: "if you are having trouble adding the folders that held all your songs in the itunes control folder."
Typical solution:
adding 1 file at a time, which can mean 200 songs.
Quick fix:
1)go into one of the folders under ipod control>Music> F01 (example)
2)now select all those songs and copy them to a new folder somewhere on your desktop (later you can move it to wherever you want)
3) repeat for each subsequent folder in the ipod control folder.
4)Now once that is all done. open itunes and add the folders that you have just created. Voila!
*extra tip if you copy all the songs from that ipod control folder into 1 file on your desktop that can cut down on time as well.
**one warning..try not to delete that new folder! you can move it just don't delete it or else itunes will not be able to use the link.
Posted by: joe y | March 29, 2008 at 03:42 AM